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Post by mboldisc Sat 31 Dec 2022 - 20:45

Hello,

I'm having some trouble with the following example:
Code:
[(press){cc:1,4,127}]
[(release){state:1}]
[(press){cc:1,4,0}]
[(release){state:0}]
[(cc:1,4,0){state:0}{nextpress:1}]
[(cc:1,4,127){state:1}{nextpress:2}]

I'm mapping the "Script" button to the "Track Activator" in Ableton 11.  It works for a short period of time (between two and five presses of the button).  Then, it pops up a yellow warning symbol on the button.  The rest of Stream Deck starts not working well at that point.


Here is my log file.
Code:
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       2.95ms     4  Script           KeyPressed                    [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.07ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 Press]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.45ms     4  DawController    Send                          [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 OutPort(StreamDeck2Daw) Channel(0) Control(4) ControlFunction(4) Value(127) ControlChange]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.70ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 CC:0,4,127]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       3.75ms     4  Script           KeyReleased                   [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.02ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 Release]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.23ms     4  Script           KeyPressed                    [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.01ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 Press]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.04ms     4  DawController    Send                          [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 OutPort(StreamDeck2Daw) Channel(0) Control(4) ControlFunction(4) Value(0) ControlChange]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.34ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 CC:0,4,0]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.56ms     4  Script           KeyPressed                    [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.01ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 Press]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.01ms     4  DawController    Send                          [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 OutPort(StreamDeck2Daw) Channel(0) Control(4) ControlFunction(4) Value(127) ControlChange]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.170 Debug       0.15ms     4  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 CC:0,4,127]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.185 Fatal Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. (Parameter 'index')
   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.get_Item(Int32 index)
   at StreamDeck_Midi.PluginActionScript.KeyReleased(KeyPayload payload) in D:\Projects\StreamDeck-Midi - Core\StreamDeck-Midi\Actions\PluginActionScript.cs:line 1329
   at BarRaider.SdTools.PluginContainer.Connection_OnKeyUp(Object sender, SDEventReceivedEventArgs`1 e) in D:\Projects\StreamDeck-Midi - Core\barraider-sdtools-sdplus\Backend\PluginContainer.cs:line 127
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__139_1(Object state)
   at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallbackDefaultContext.Execute()
   at System.Threading.ThreadPoolWorkQueue.Dispatch()
   at System.Threading._ThreadPoolWaitCallback.PerformWaitCallback()
2022-12-31 13:30:24.202 Debug      29.61ms     9  Script           KeyReleased                   [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4]
2022-12-31 13:30:24.202 Debug       0.06ms     9  Script           RunActionList                 [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696 Row:2, Column:4 Release]
2022-12-31 13:31:25.0845|DEBUG|TrevligaSpel|Logger Initialized
2022-12-31 13:31:25.0845|INFO|TrevligaSpel|Plugin [se.trevligaspel.midi] Loading - 9 Actions Found
2022-12-31 13:31:25.2132|DEBUG|TrevligaSpel|Plugin Loaded: UUID: CD43519A6691746D1FA39E5982E8EDD9 Device Info: Devices:
[Id: B3806B96A784EA6D4864CAB263A92FDA Type: StreamDeckXL Size: Rows: 4 Columns: 8]
[Id: 2056B7E85D34017A27CF2DC47A25154B Type: StreamDeckPedal Size: Rows: 1 Columns: 3]
ApplicationInfo: Language: en Platform: windows Version: 6.0.2.17735
PluginInfo: Version: 3.0.0



Any thoughts on what could be going wrong?

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Post by Admin Sat 31 Dec 2022 - 22:37

That's a nasty bug you've found. Embarassed

It is triggered by the fact that the cc commands are run when you set the cc value in the press commands.

You can bypass the problem by adding the following command anywhere in the script:

[(config){TriggerOnLocalMidiEvents:No}]
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Post by mboldisc Sat 31 Dec 2022 - 23:18

Wow!  Thanks for the quick reply.  It worked with that extra command you provided.  I'm on to trying some more advanced state configurations.  Much appreciated!

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Post by mboldisc Sat 31 Dec 2022 - 23:56

I tried a more advanced example using variables.

Here's the log file:
Code:
2022-12-31 16:53:51.531 Warn        0.00ms    44  ScriptParser    GetActions                    [Invalid parameter in action {state:@StandardDrumsState}]
2022-12-31 16:53:51.531 Warn        0.02ms    44  ScriptParser    GetMidiEvent                  [In the event (cc:@channel,@note,@off), the channel must be within 1-16]
2022-12-31 16:53:51.531 Warn        0.01ms    44  ScriptParser    GetMidiEvent                  [In the event (cc:@channel,@note,@on), the channel must be within 1-16]
2022-12-31 16:53:51.531 Debug      0.83ms    44  TSFile          Watcher_Stable                [File 'C:/Users/mike/workspace/ableton-control/streamdeck/standard_drums.txt' thread end]
2022-12-31 16:54:10.061 Debug  18525.08ms    38  Script          OnSendToPlugin                [00ef43cfc9f187cdbbe4f6483ac32696

Here's what I tried:
Code:
[(config){TriggerOnLocalMidiEvents:No}]

{@Channel:1}
{@Note:1}
{@On:127}
{@Off:0}
{@StandardDrumsState:0}
{@ElectricDrumsState:1}

[(press){cc:@Channel,@Note,@On}]
[(release){state:@ElectricDrumsState}]
[(press){cc:@Channel,@Note,@Off}]
[(release){state:@StandardDrumsState}]
[(cc:@Channel,@Note,@Off){state:@StandardDrumsState}{nextpress:1}{text:Electric}]
[(cc:@Channel,@Note,@On){state:@ElectricDrumsState}{nextpress:2}{text:Standard}]

I noticed that "state" and "cc:channel" do not work well with variables.  Even with constants inserted, I couldn't get the variables to work well.

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Post by mboldisc Sun 1 Jan 2023 - 1:24

I did get the example I wanted working without variables:
Code:
[(config){TriggerOnLocalMidiEvents:No}]

[(press){cc:1,2,127}{cc:1,1,0}]
[(release){state:1}]
[(press){cc:1,2,0}{cc:1,1,127}]
[(release){state:0}]
[(cc:1,2,0){state:0}{nextpress:1}{text:"Standard"}]
[(cc:1,2,127){state:1}{nextpress:2}{text:"Electronic"}]

This allows me to control two track activate toggles such that they behave as mutually exclusive buttons.

Nice work on this plugin!

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Post by Admin Sun 1 Jan 2023 - 12:28

mboldisc wrote:
Code:
[(config){TriggerOnLocalMidiEvents:No}]

{@Channel:1}
{@Note:1}
{@On:127}
{@Off:0}
{@StandardDrumsState:0}
{@ElectricDrumsState:1}

[(press){cc:@Channel,@Note,@On}]
[(release){state:@ElectricDrumsState}]
[(press){cc:@Channel,@Note,@Off}]
[(release){state:@StandardDrumsState}]
[(cc:@Channel,@Note,@Off){state:@StandardDrumsState}{nextpress:1}{text:Electric}]
[(cc:@Channel,@Note,@On){state:@ElectricDrumsState}{nextpress:2}{text:Standard}]

I noticed that "state" and "cc:channel" do not work well with variables.  Even with constants inserted, I couldn't get the variables to work well.

I don't know the purpose of the "{@Channel:1}" rows; since they are not in commands, they are ignored by the script engine. If you need default values for variables, you can set them in an Init command:

Code:
[(Init){@Channel:1}{@Note:1}{@On:127}{@Off:0}{@StandardDrumsState:0}{@ElectricDrumsState:1}]

The "{state:@ElectricDrumsState}" action did not work since I didn't expect anyone to use variables to set the state.  Very Happy  I have added this to the next release.

The "(cc:@Channel,@Note,@Off)" events did not work since variables can only be set in events, not referenced, and this will not change. Variable references in events would introduce immense complexity that, besides me getting it all right, requires that you get it all right.  Shocked  Instead, you need to add multiple commands if you have multiple situations to react to.
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Post by mboldisc Sun 1 Jan 2023 - 17:50

I'm starting to understand.  Thanks for all the help.

From an example:
Code:
[(press){cc:1,2,127}{cc:1,1,0}]

Is the "event" portion of that statement considered "(press)"?

Or is the event portion also including the expected event state, i.e., "(press){cc:1,2,127}"?

I'm trying to understand if variables can be used in the expected event state.  It didn't seem to work with variables in the expected event state portion.

Example:
Code:
[(config){TriggerOnLocalMidiEvents:No}]

[(Init){@Channel:1}{@StandardNote:1}{@ElectricNote:2}{@On:127}{@Off:0}{@StandardDrumsState:0}{@ElectricDrumsState:1}]

[(press){cc:@Channel,@ElectricNote,@On}{cc:@Channel,@StandardNote,@Off}{image:"C:\Users\mike\workspace\ableton-control\streamdeck\freebie-musical-instruments\Green style\png\icons\64\snare-drum.png"}]
[(release){state:1}]
[(press){cc:@Channel,@ElectricNote,@Off}{cc:@Channel,@StandardNote,@On}{image:"C:\Users\mike\workspace\ableton-control\streamdeck\freebie-musical-instruments\Plain style\png\icons\64\snare-drum.png"}]
[(release){state:0}]
[(cc:1,2,0){state:0}{nextpress:1}{text:"Standard"}]
[(cc:1,2,127){state:1}{nextpress:2}{text:"Electronic"}]

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Post by Admin Sun 1 Jan 2023 - 19:41

When everything else fails, read the manual.  Very Happy

From the manual:

Please remember the following syntax rules:
  • Commands are enclosed in square brackets. [ ]
  • Events are enclosed in parentheses. ( )
  • Actions are enclosed in curly brackets. { }
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