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Transport Buttons Ableton
by zgoin Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:08 pm
I'm using a the faderfox ableton midi control script (found on the ec4 product page) and mapping the defined notes/cc to the functions. It's all working technically but I'm having issues with the button states showing up correctly.
The only problem button seems to be the global play button. The control script uses note on/off messages and I have:
Global record set to toggle with 2 images (black record & red record).
Global stop set to hold with a static image (only hold and latch work here)
Global play with 2 images (black play & green play) I've tried push, latch, toggle, and hold all with different problems.
I can get the button states to switch correctly when play is set to toggle but the play button is not functional. The button is functional under latch and hold but the state doesn't change.
How would you suggest trying to fix this? Would a translation file work?
If it's allowed I'd like to share the completed streamdeck+ profile with the forum since I'm sure others would find it useful in ableton.
It currently controls all 8 macros for a selected track, volume plus pans and sends (a,b,c,d) for the first 16 tracks, tempo, quantization with a translation file, track and scene selection. I might be adding more in the future or might modify the python script to add even more features.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
The only problem button seems to be the global play button. The control script uses note on/off messages and I have:
Global record set to toggle with 2 images (black record & red record).
Global stop set to hold with a static image (only hold and latch work here)
Global play with 2 images (black play & green play) I've tried push, latch, toggle, and hold all with different problems.
I can get the button states to switch correctly when play is set to toggle but the play button is not functional. The button is functional under latch and hold but the state doesn't change.
How would you suggest trying to fix this? Would a translation file work?
If it's allowed I'd like to share the completed streamdeck+ profile with the forum since I'm sure others would find it useful in ableton.
It currently controls all 8 macros for a selected track, volume plus pans and sends (a,b,c,d) for the first 16 tracks, tempo, quantization with a translation file, track and scene selection. I might be adding more in the future or might modify the python script to add even more features.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by Admin Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:43 am
Hi,
From your description, I get the impression that the Play button should send a Note On message every time it is pressed but toggle the image state. You don't have translation files for Note actions, so I think a Script button is the best way to solve the problem. Something like this:
[(press){noteon:1,1,127}{image:black_play_image}]
[(release){noteoff:1,1,127}]
[(press){noteon:1,1,127}{image:green_play_image}]
[(release){noteoff:1,1,127}]
...where you need to change the note values to the ones used by the Play button and the image paths.
There is a problem with keeping the image state in sync if you press play in Ableton, but that can be solved with variables in the script, but it gets a bit more complex in such a case.
You can most certainly share your profiles in the forum.
From your description, I get the impression that the Play button should send a Note On message every time it is pressed but toggle the image state. You don't have translation files for Note actions, so I think a Script button is the best way to solve the problem. Something like this:
[(press){noteon:1,1,127}{image:black_play_image}]
[(release){noteoff:1,1,127}]
[(press){noteon:1,1,127}{image:green_play_image}]
[(release){noteoff:1,1,127}]
...where you need to change the note values to the ones used by the Play button and the image paths.
There is a problem with keeping the image state in sync if you press play in Ableton, but that can be solved with variables in the script, but it gets a bit more complex in such a case.
You can most certainly share your profiles in the forum.
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by zgoin Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:42 am
That all works but fails to keep the state when you hit stop, hit record, or use the controls in the DAW. Is there some documentation about implementing variables?
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by Admin Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:49 am
Yes, I expected that to happen.
You can find the script variables explained here:
https://trevligaspel.se/streamdeck/midi/setupsc6.html
You can find the script variables explained here:
https://trevligaspel.se/streamdeck/midi/setupsc6.html
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by ozark2001 Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:26 pm
Using Ableton myself, did you ever share this here?zgoin wrote:If it's allowed I'd like to share the completed streamdeck+ profile with the forum since I'm sure others would find it useful in ableton.
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by zgoin Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:00 pm
I never quite finished it. The transport functions don't quite work how they should. I can share it later today though
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by ozark2001 Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:58 pm
That would be awesome! Then I (or someone else) can have a look and re-share after maybe figuring some things out.zgoin wrote:I never quite finished it. The transport functions don't quite work how they should. I can share it later today though
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by zgoin Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:07 am
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K4H8sUFOp-DpUciRsyCSlyJsWUzhDBQT/view?usp=sharing
It's been a while since I messed with this. There are 2 profiles in there that are pretty similar and unfinished. Let me know if you have any questions.
It's been a while since I messed with this. There are 2 profiles in there that are pretty similar and unfinished. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Re: Transport Buttons Ableton
by ozark2001 Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:03 am
Thanks @zgoin, will have a look over the weekend and post back 
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