Mackie Wishes

by jordikt Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:46 am

1) #LCDUJ# #LCDLJ#
New labels for users that want a jump line in the display if #LCDU# or #LCDL# have no information.
This would be useful for showing the texts well aligned.

2) #CHNR+1#
New label for showing channel number from 1 to 8 instead of 0 to 7

3) Bank navigation loop
Global preference for users that want to:
- go from first bank to last one when pressing Bank Left/Channel Left
- go from last bank to first one when pressing Bank Right/Channel Right

4) Four channels navigation
Add two new actions to the drop-down list:
- Fader Banks: Four Channels Left
- Fader Banks: Four Channels Right
This will be super-useful for all users that are using only one Stream Deck Plus, as the SD+ has only 4 dials.

5) SHIFT button
Have the following actions in the drop-down list:
- SHIFT as real button
- SHIFT as toggle button
- SHIFT keep button pressed, release after next pressed button

6) SHIFT checkbox
Add a checkbox to the actions to send them with the Shift button pressed. After action is sent, release the Shift button. Something like this:

by **Admin** Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:15 pm

1. That's a good point, but I think it is easier to keep the current labels but change the code to not center the text if a value is missing. If you define two rows using both #LCDU# and #LCDL#, the result should be two rows. If you use only one of the tags, you can add empty rows above, below, or not at all to position the text where you want it.

2. That's also a good point, and I think the track name always should be 1-8.

3. It can't be done; the plugin is only aware of the 8 tracks currently in control and doesn't know how many banks there are (if any). The only thing the plugin can do is to send the bank left/right commands; it's up to the daw to decide how to handle the command (e.g., not move 8 tracks if there are fewer tracks available).

4. Good suggestion, but as mentioned above, the plugin can't determine if there are 4 tracks available in the selected direction; all it can do is try to perform four steps.

5-6. I can take a look at it, but some things may be tricky to implement across pages/profiles.

by jordikt Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:19 pm

1. Fully agree.

2. Yes, probably nobody will never want 0-7.

3. Well noted, it's not possible to manage this.

5-6. I agree that Shift button options may be tricky, but I don't see how Shift checkbox can be tricky.

4. Regarding four channels navigation... no surrender!! Very Happy

I have a solution for navigating tracks in groups of 4. I have sent you an email with 2 profiles that emulates this solution. I explain this navigation in the next post.

by jordikt Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:16 pm

Change tracks in banks of 4 channels

It could be possible using DoubleChannels and DoubleChannelBank Left/Right.

DoubleChannelBank
It's just a tool for navigating though DoubleChannels.
There are two actions:
- Fader Banks: DoubleChannelBank Left
- Fader Banks: DoubleChannelBank Right

DoubleChannels
DoubleChannel contains two different channels. There is:
- DoubleChannel 1/5
- DoubleChannel 2/6
- DoubleChannel 3/7
- DoubleChannel 4/8
Only one channel is shown, the first one or the second one.
Visible channels are [1 and 2 and 3 and 4] or [5 and 6 and 7 and 8].
All DoubleChannels are synchronised. All them show the same visible channels at the same time.

Navigation when DoubleChannels show ch. 1,2,3,4
DoubleChannelsBank Left: Shift 4 channels to the left
DoubleChannelsBank Right: Change all DoubleChannels to channels 5,6,7,8

Navigation when DoubleChannels show ch. 5,6,7,8
DoubleChannelsBank Left: Change all DoubleChannels to channels 1,2,3,4
DoubleChannelsBank Right: Shift 4 channels to the right

by **Admin** Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:04 pm

I think it's too simplified and inconsistent. You would have a "Channel left/right" that shifts the bank 1 step, a "Bank left/right" that shifts the bank 8 steps, and a "Double Channel left/right" that sometimes shifts the bank 4 steps (if possible) and sometimes no step.

Apart from that, the plugin somewhere needs to keep track of which half of the bank is currently used, and everything only makes sense if you have a fixed configuration with 4 consecutive Mackie dials.

I understand the concept and think a 4-channel shift is a good idea, but I can't see the need for any other solution than simply shifting the bank 4 steps (if possible). This would be consistent with the other shift variants and will work regardless of button and dial configurations.

by **Admin** Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 pm

Try this version for the 4-step bank shift. I have added a simple step counter to the Mackie Button when channel left/right is selected.

by jordikt Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:53 pm

Hi Gunnar

It doesn't work correctly in Cubase, it doesn't matter that steps are 1,2,3 or 4.

The first press always shifts the steps correctly, but the second press always moves the tracks 1 bank left/right (shift of eight). Third press shifts correctly, 4th press 1 bank left/right and so on.

Probably it is an issue with the shift button: the first press is sent with the shift pressed, the second one is sent with the shift released.

I've realized that DoubleChannels are not a good idea.
Channel numbers can be directly shifted to left or right, so the user could navigate in banks of 4 channels to left or right.
I have sent you an email with some new profiles and a link to a private video, trying to explain you better this concept.

by jordikt Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:27 pm

It seems that last beta version has broken the action "Fader Banks: Bank Left/Right" in Dial rotate while pressed action:

When I rotate dial to left, the fader bank moves to right.
When I rotate dial to right, the fader bank doesn't change, but the record button of ~~track 15~~ the selected track is enabled/disabled at every step.

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