Program change
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Program change
Hello ! I tried to use program change with Ableton and a vsti plugin named "repro 1" .
In Ableton you can create PC into clip .
Then i use them to change Program of thez synth repro1
It work great .
Then i tried to do the same thing with the stream deck and the midi plugin.
It does not work.
Then i analyse the midi sent with bome midi translater.
There is a difference between the 2 Hex .
While ableton have Bank, Sub and Program info
it seems that midi stream deck plugin have only Bank and sub
But also that in midi streamdeck the Bank is the Subank for Ableton.
When "bank" is 2 and "program" is 1 on ableton
The hex for ableton that make the plugin react is
Bank : B0 00 01
Sub Bank: B0 20 00
Program : C0 00
and for the Stream deck plugin that does not make the plugin react it's
Bank : B0 00 00
Sub Bank: B0 20 01
Program: C0 00
Then the Subank for Aleton IS the Bank for the streamdeck plugin.
And i can't access the bank of the plugin.
If it's also possible to make access of the bank (in the way of Ableton) ?
Thanks for reading and for your great plugin !
In Ableton you can create PC into clip .
Then i use them to change Program of thez synth repro1
It work great .
Then i tried to do the same thing with the stream deck and the midi plugin.
It does not work.
Then i analyse the midi sent with bome midi translater.
There is a difference between the 2 Hex .
While ableton have Bank, Sub and Program info
it seems that midi stream deck plugin have only Bank and sub
But also that in midi streamdeck the Bank is the Subank for Ableton.
When "bank" is 2 and "program" is 1 on ableton
The hex for ableton that make the plugin react is
Bank : B0 00 01
Sub Bank: B0 20 00
Program : C0 00
and for the Stream deck plugin that does not make the plugin react it's
Bank : B0 00 00
Sub Bank: B0 20 01
Program: C0 00
Then the Subank for Aleton IS the Bank for the streamdeck plugin.
And i can't access the bank of the plugin.
If it's also possible to make access of the bank (in the way of Ableton) ?
Thanks for reading and for your great plugin !
lionoil- Posts : 53
Join date : 2022-03-03
Re: Program change
Oh . in a work around i used sysex plugin you provided . And it works great !!
lionoil- Posts : 53
Join date : 2022-03-03
Re: Program change
Hi,
You're correct that the Program Change action only supports the first 128 banks, while Ableton seems to require more than that.
I don't know how you got the Sysex action to do that, but another alternative is to put a Control Change and a Program Change action in a Multi Action. You can set the Control Change to the Bank Select dual byte command with the appropriate bank value and have the Program Change without Bank Select.
Or maybe split the Control Change into two instances (in the Multi); one for CC0 and the second for CC32, and set the bank numbers accordingly.
You're correct that the Program Change action only supports the first 128 banks, while Ableton seems to require more than that.
I don't know how you got the Sysex action to do that, but another alternative is to put a Control Change and a Program Change action in a Multi Action. You can set the Control Change to the Bank Select dual byte command with the appropriate bank value and have the Program Change without Bank Select.
Or maybe split the Control Change into two instances (in the Multi); one for CC0 and the second for CC32, and set the bank numbers accordingly.
Re: Program change
Thanks !! That's so great !
I used you excellent midi sysex plugin.
For the midi i used bome midi translator https://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator
It has a midi log message . Then i just had to analyse what ableton sent to change the program of the plugin.
And i replicate it on the midi plugin of the stream deck .
Here the Sysex midi plugin you provided
and here the Bome midi translator software. It's a great software to !
I don't know how you got the Sysex action to do that
I used you excellent midi sysex plugin.
For the midi i used bome midi translator https://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator
It has a midi log message . Then i just had to analyse what ableton sent to change the program of the plugin.
And i replicate it on the midi plugin of the stream deck .
Here the Sysex midi plugin you provided
and here the Bome midi translator software. It's a great software to !
lionoil- Posts : 53
Join date : 2022-03-03
Re: Program change
I've always seen the Sysex action as sysex-only, but you're right; if you know what you are doing you can send whatever you like with it.
Re: Program change
Sysex are only midi "raw" messages.
And your plugin sends them greatly !
Thanks again !
And your plugin sends them greatly !
Thanks again !
lionoil- Posts : 53
Join date : 2022-03-03
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